How Quickly We Forget
Lyberty, 21 Feb 2005
The common line, currently, about supporting the War on Iraq:
"Yea, okay, so maybe we were entirely wrong about the Weapons of Mass
and, yea, maybe Iraq didn't really have anything to do with the Sept 11th attacks,
but we didn't make a mistake. Look at how much better off they [the Iraqis]
are now. That
This is historical revisionism. It implies that we [America] invaded
Iraq with a common objective:
to "liberate" the Iraqi people. Please note, however, that rarely,
if ever, was this goal stated
as a justification for invasion. The reason it wasn't used was because
it was not a strong argument.
There are many nations in the world that could stand, from our point of
view, to be "liberated".
But in the realm of world politics, we have agreed that countries cannot
attack other countries
based on philisophical orientation alone. (Invasion or subversion of a
foreign government is
illegal under international law.)
Furthermore, we ignore atrocities in many other countries.
Anyone who points out that we were lied to, and that the administration
was proven wrong, is subjected to the spurious argument "so-and-so
prefers mass graves and rape rooms over ink-stained fingers." As
if it was a simple "either-or" proposition. You want to talk
about mass graves?
The Feb 2005 Iraqi death toll (CIVILIAN ONLY deaths), since the beginning
of our invastion of Iraqi and disposal of Hussein from power, is between
16,036 and 18,305.
As of Feb 2005: U.S.
military dead in Iraqi conflict: 1,525 US Dead
U.S. military amputeed, wounded, injured, mentally ill, (as of Nov
2003, now out of Iraq), 29,550;
American civilians killed:
November 3, 2004 :
The US - Iraq war: Total Body Count
"The human toll [of the war in Iraq]:
U.S. military dead in Iraq, including suicides, 1,107;
U.S. military amputeed, wounded, injured, mentally ill, (all now out
of Iraq), 29,550;
Iraqi civilians dead, 100,000 (?)
[from] a Johns Hopkins University study just released, an independent
and conservative estimate."
Source: "Transcript: THE
MCLAUGHLIN GROUP, October 29, 2004"
According to the IRAQ
BODY COUNT Database (a non-conservative source, which includes "civilian
deaths resulting from the breakdown in law and order, and deaths due to
inadequate health care or sanitation"):
the current Iraqi death toll (military and civilian) is between 14,272
The IRAQ BODY COUNT
Database includes up to 7,350 deaths which resulted from coalition
military action during the "major-combat" phase prior to May
In the current occupation phase the database includes all deaths which
the Occupying Authority has a binding responsibility to prevent under
the Geneva Conventions and Hague Regulations. This includes civilian deaths
resulting from the breakdown in law and order, and deaths due to inadequate
health care or sanitation.
Results and totals are continually updated and made immediately available
on this page and
on various IBC counters which may be freely displayed on any website,
where they will be automatically updated without further intervention.
Casualty figures are derived solely from a comprehensive survey of online
media reports. Where these sources report differing figures, the range
(a minimum and a maximum) are given. All results are independently
reviewed and error-checked by at least three members of the Iraq Body
Count project team before publication.
The principles of a "Just War":
The theory states that four conditions must be met at one and the same
1) the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations
must be lasting, grave, and certain;
2) all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical
3) there must be serious prospects of success;
4) the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil
to be eliminated.
Moderating voices such as former US Marine and UN weapons inspector, Scott
were often trivialized by the media as saps or madmen.
Mr. Ridder has been a popular target for ad hominem attacks (personal
attacks seeking to discredit the message).
It is a logical fallacy (shut him up by accusing that he's some kind of
pervert). It's amazing how everyone falls for the shifting of the debate
from "was he right?" to "is he a bad person?"
The name of the "Patriot Act" was deliberately chosen to imply
that anyone opposed to it was un-patriotic.
The bill was voted on without allowing the people voting on it to read it (rewritten
3:20 AM, vote was 11 AM).
Unconstitutional: The War on Our Civil Liberties
The War on Iraq
(both of these are available on Netflix)