Shopping:
I've found a dell 8300 base system online today for $1,030 and free shipping.
Why is this so much lower than the SysCompare? i.e. What is the diff between the 8300 and the XPS? Or the Area-51 performance and the Area-51 Extreme?
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Dell Dimension 8300 Series |
Alienware 51 Performance | FragBox Pro |
| Microprocessor Type: |
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology current options: 2.80, 3, 3.20, 3.40 GHz with Hyper-Threading Technology (800MHz) |
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology 3.0GHz w/800MHz FSB |
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology |
| System Board Chipset: |
i875P Note: The i875P has a faster memory transfer rate than the i865G 800 Mhz system bus; |
i875P ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe |
i865(PE, G, or P?) Intel® 865 Chipset 800Mhz system bus; |
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250-W Power Supply (note: for higher end graphics card, a minimum power supply of 300 Watts is recommended) |
650 Watt Max Power Supply Upgrade [+208] | ||
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Power mod: Aerocool's Aero 420P4 is our favorite for performance and design. With maximum power of 455 watts it offers plenty of reserves even for high-end systems. Modding fans will like the unusual design with the three green acrylic windows that allow a look at the components on the interior of the shiny case.
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| Installed Memory: | 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (PC-3200 2x256M) |
512MB DDR SDRAM - 400MHz |
1024MB DDR SDRAM - 400MHz PC-3200 |
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Additional needed: 512MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (PC3200 2x256M) Get 512 more from Tiger Direct Corsair Value Select Dual Channel 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz |
Get 512 more from AWare for +121 | ||
| Microsoft® Office 2003 Basic Edition (Word, Excel) +$130 |
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120GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) |
120GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) |
120GB |
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4.7GB (DVD) 10 GB free on disk needed for DVD creation |
Single Drive: 16X DVD-ROM Drive Dell offers a 8x DVD+RW Drive for + $140 The Sony DRU530A DVD Burner / 8x4x12x DVD+RW / 4x2x12x DVD-RW / 40x24x40x CD-RW / Dual Format is $150 |
Single Drive: 16X DVD-ROM Drive |
Single Drive: DVD+/-RW Black (also supports DVD-Rom, CD-RW media) |
| Video Card: |
The 5200 value is $50; the 5200 Ultra value is $130
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GeForce FX 5200 Ultra AWare Upgrade: 5900 SE for $63 more |
GeForce FX 5900 and ATI RADEON 9800 btw the 5900XT is the same as the 5900SE -9800 vs 5900 (128mb) -9800pro(128mb) vs 5900ultra (256mb) -9800xt (256mb) vs 5950ultra (256mb) |
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Desired Updgrade: -GeForce 5700 w /128: $160
- GeForce FX5900 Ultra w/256MB $590 - GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 256MB 8x AGP (the GAINWARD FX 5900XT POWER PACK ULTRA/1100XT W/ DVI/TV-OUT /DUAL MONITOR SUPPORT 128MB is $200 retail) |
ATI RADEON 9600 XT 128MB 8x AGP w/DVI & S-Video [+$30 ] NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 SE 128MB 8x AGP w/DVI & S-Video [+63.] Alienware Extreme Edition GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 256MB 8x AGP w/DVI & S-Video [+350] ATI RADEON 9800 XT 256MB DDR 8x AGP w/DVI & S-Video [+$350] NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra 256MB 8x AGP w/Dual DVI & S-Video [+$550] PCI EXPRESS ( Limited Availabilty) |
BFG Asylum nVidia GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 256MB Graphics Card |
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The performance difference between NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900, ATI RADEON 9800 and their faster analogues (Ultra and Pro) appeared not very high. "Like all NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900/5900 Ultra based graphics cards, the solution from Gainward requires additional power supply.." |
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| Audio Card: |
Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 (D) Card with Dolby® Digital 5.1 capability (already have a Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy 2 ZS) |
None | |
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updgrade to |
Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro - 7.1 - Recommended [+240] | ||
| Cost: $1,030, to A-Ware's level: $1,110 |
Cost: $1,535+ $120 shipping (+$545) | Cost: $1700 | |
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Cost with upgrades: get 1gHz mem with Dell XPS: (compare to $1400 for 8300): $1660 (+$230) |
Cost with desired upgrades: (1 gb mem, sound card, vid card) $2,074 (+559 more) |
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how much to upgrade power? ($100) okay choice is (leave out sound card)
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XPS (w/3.2 Ghz, 2 gig ram, and 9800 graph card):
$1,660 (+360) for $300 more you get the Aurora |
AlienWare Aurora Area 51 |
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| 2 CD-ROM Slots (3.5"), 2 HD Slots | |||
| PCI Slots: | 4 | 5 | 1 Available PCI expansion slot |
| Serial ATA Connectors / Ports: | 2 | 4 | |
| L1 cache 8 KB L2 cache 512-KB or 1-MB pipelined-burst, eight-way set associative, write-back SRAM |
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System chip set AGP 8X |
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| Bus types PCI and AGP Bus speed PCI: 33 MHz AGP: 133 MHz |
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| has 1000 Ethernet (Gigabit Ethernet) support [via RJ-45 connection] a 1000Mbps Gigabit Switch is about $80 |
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"One potential drawback of the iI875P chipset is its removal of the 400Mhz FSB.
This means if you want to use an i875P you will need either a 533Mhz or 800Mhz FSB CPU. i865-G does however support 400/533/800Mhz FSB." |
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"DDR-400 (PC3200) memory alone in single channel supports a max theoretical bandwidth of 3.2GB/s,
using Dual Channel you get 6.4GB/s, the same bandwidth speed that the 800Mhz FSB P4 is able to generate." |
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| Memory Type: DDR 333 or 400 (non-ECC) DDR memory modules should be installed in pairs of matched memory size. |
Digital & Analog 6-Channel Sound | ||
| 1.44MB Black Floppy Drive Intel USB 2.0 controller 4 Ports 1394a Firewire controller w/ 3 Ports 10/100 Network Interface Port Microsoft Windows XP Home PowerDVD DVD playback software Emergency System Recovery DVD |
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Drives Externally accessible |
Features: Upfront Firewire (1394) port 2 Upfront USB ports Upfront microphone connection
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1 To buy a new P4 3.0 GHz (if you want to upgrade) is $220 [back^]
2 i875P = Canterwood, Intel 865PE/G/P = Springdale
| My Sys | Alienware (Area 51 "performance" low-end) | Falcon Northwest Mach V | Dell Dimension 4600 Series |
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$2,825 (+$400) | $1,517 | |
| 1.80GHz | 3.0 GHz | 3.0 GHz | Pentium® 4 Processor with HT Technology 3GHz w/800MHz FSB |
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Intel® i850 Chipset (400MHz system bus; Dual RDRAM capability) |
Intel® 875P / ICH5R (800Mhz system bus; PC-3200 DDR SDRAM; 4GB; 8x AGP; ATA-100; Serial ATA-150 Support) |
Intel® 875P |
865G 800 Mhz system bus; Dual-Channel DDR SDRAM 400; 8x AGP |
| ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe - Intel 875P Motherboard | ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe - Intel 875P Motherboard | ||
| 120GB Seagate Barracuda® 7200.7 Serial ATA 7,200 RPM 8MB Cache |
120GB Seagate ST3120026AS 7200RPM SATA |
120GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) | |
| 1024MB DDR SDRAM Memory - 400MHz PC-3200 |
1024MB DDR SDRAM Memory - 400MHz PC-3200 |
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz (2x512M) PC3200 | |
| Alienware Extreme Edition GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 256MB 8x AGP w/DVI & S-Video |
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra | 128MB DDR ATI RADEON 9800 PRO Graphics Card with TV-Out and DVI | |
| Plextor PX-708A 8x DVD±R/W Drive - Black | DVD+/-RW, TDK | ||
| Creative Labs Audigy II ZS Platinum Pro [+238] |
Creative Labs Audigy II ZS Platinum Pro |
+238 | |